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Re: The Mexican Flu

Post by biggy big b » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:02 pm

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Re: The Mexican Flu

Post by thexfiles123 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:49 pm

The 'Illuminati' are not real... Just look at Swine Flu, there was no swine flu... I think that today's corrupt medical institutions made it up just to vaccinate people with pure... water :P

Re: The Mexican Flu

Post by fuzoid » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:55 pm

ET wrote:http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?cid=23630&cat=dis&lang=eng

Situation Update No. 38
On 15.11.2009 at 04:02 GMT+2

A total of 3 cases of influenza [pandemic] A/H1N1 and 3 fatalities have been officially registered in the Donetsk Oblast. There were 5007 visits to health care facilities recently. Since the start of the epidemic in Ukraine (30 Oct 2009) 62,486 people, including 24,452 children, sought medical care in the Donetsk Oblast, and 2815 patients have been hospitalized. There were 3 fatalities and tissue samples are being tested for etiological diagnosis. The results of express diagnostic tests show that the majority of flu-like diseases are caused by influenza A virus, however only 3 [pandemic?] influenza A/H1N1 have been confirmed. Several local and regional bodies have been created to oversee the epidemic control measures. The sanitary epidemiological service conducts on-the-spot inspections. So far 814 incidents have been inspected and contravention of epidemic control measures, such as absence of masks or disinfection procedures, has been identified in every 5th case. 164 violation fines have been imposed and the work of 22 units has been suspended.


They stopped updating the numbers off the main site, and the above update is almost worded like a reversal. The below link is a time-line of the issue from the writers stance. Interesting reading.

http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1790%3Arepost-key-report-on-the-ukraine-pneumonia-outbreak-by-stephen-lendman&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en

:ugeek:


The numbers on this site continue to be updated:
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/idcu/disease/influenza/surveillance/2010/

And that's just for the state of Texas! My point being, the breakout in Ukraine is no more special than what is happening in my own home state. None of these statistics points to, nor proves, a worldwide NWO conspiracy. We live in a global community and the worldwide transportation of viruses are a consequence of this. The alternative is to test everyone traveling internationally, which is logistically impossible. And the alternative to this alternative is unacceptable for our global economy.

Re: The Mexican Flu

Post by ET » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:27 pm

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?cid=23630&cat=dis&lang=eng

Situation Update No. 38
On 15.11.2009 at 04:02 GMT+2

A total of 3 cases of influenza [pandemic] A/H1N1 and 3 fatalities have been officially registered in the Donetsk Oblast. There were 5007 visits to health care facilities recently. Since the start of the epidemic in Ukraine (30 Oct 2009) 62,486 people, including 24,452 children, sought medical care in the Donetsk Oblast, and 2815 patients have been hospitalized. There were 3 fatalities and tissue samples are being tested for etiological diagnosis. The results of express diagnostic tests show that the majority of flu-like diseases are caused by influenza A virus, however only 3 [pandemic?] influenza A/H1N1 have been confirmed. Several local and regional bodies have been created to oversee the epidemic control measures. The sanitary epidemiological service conducts on-the-spot inspections. So far 814 incidents have been inspected and contravention of epidemic control measures, such as absence of masks or disinfection procedures, has been identified in every 5th case. 164 violation fines have been imposed and the work of 22 units has been suspended.


They stopped updating the numbers off the main site, and the above update is almost worded like a reversal. The below link is a time-line of the issue from the writers stance. Interesting reading.

http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1790%3Arepost-key-report-on-the-ukraine-pneumonia-outbreak-by-stephen-lendman&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en

:ugeek:

Re: The Mexican Flu

Post by ET » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:14 am

fuzoid wrote:Damn, I worked up a response but when I tried to post it, this site had already timed me out and I lost it. And I really don't want to do it over. Especially since I'm really not into conspiracy theories. But suffice to say that I'm still not convinced. And this Ken Welch character is a conspiracy theorist so I can't trust his site. As for the comments, I have no idea who these people are or where they get the info for their claims, so I can't trust them either.

One key thing you need to remember regarding conspiracy theories such as this, medical practitioners and first responders are usually the first to be vaccinated. We can't have the medical profession getting sick while tending to the sick. And I have yet to hear about massive infections and/or deaths of individuals who do work in the medical profession. This alone tells me all I need to know... there is no conspiracy to infect individuals in some massive NWO plot.


Yes I have experienced being timed out before. Usually after rambling out a creative reply to someone and then not having the kahoots to do it over again after being booted by a time restrictions. If I know it is going to be long, I just edit the template of how I was wanting the "who said what" portions in the correct grouping with space given for my comments, then check it using the preview function, then copy and paste that into a txt editor and move forward more so at my leisure. I can then go back online, reopen a reply box, whack it out, and paste the homemade remedy. Sorry for that being so long winded.

I agree with you on the health care workers, but what if they themselves to not want to take it, as is the case with the H1N1? Then one asks why? Then there is no doubt a rabbit hole. I agree with several of the sites I point you to were conspiracy related to make the slight point on that although I follow the theories to see what is being talked about that doesn't make me a fully blown conspiracy theorist. I look at it in terms of what web is being weaved and can it catch a fly. And even by way of my confession at times I must be careful not to be the fly. I enjoy pointing them out at times is all.

Re: The Mexican Flu

Post by fuzoid » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:59 am

ET wrote:
fuzoid wrote:


Thanks for the the interesting site. I bookmarked it. Now where does it mention H1N1?


See menu top of the page from the linked site under the heading Situation Update. They are posting any information as such there.

fuzoid wrote:
ET wrote:]Not much to be found on the above at the Candy Nugget News site (CNN) aside --> The H1N1 virus has now become the dominant influenza virus around the globe, with high levels and an increase of activity in many regions, the World Health Organization said Thursday.


You do mean that the H1N1 virus is just getting more publication than other flu viruses, right? It's the way news organizations work, scare tactics. Bad news sells better than not as bad or good news.

Sad but true. I watch the BBC at this point. Also, check out other national newspapers globally. Most offer English. At least it makes it easier to get somewhat of a picture or diversified thoughts on a topic.

Funny (odd funny) since the WHO is in the Ukraine to investigate a new viral pneumonic plague which is mounting some very scary data (of which only a small amount is testing positive to the "H1N1" strain) that is being reported to the tune of 780,000 people infected. <<109 deaths of which only 23 H1N1>>


Yup, must be some kind of conspiracy to intentionally infect people.


LOL - you dragged the dragon out of the den on that one. My conspiracy thought was at least a few more lines down. :lol:

fuzoid wrote:
ET wrote:Even more odder when you consider the Huffington Post story containing the testimony of Joseph Moshe, would was reported as a Mossad Agent that specialized in biological warfare, who called into a radio show to warn people about a vaccine induced plague.


Ahh.... evidence for a conspiracy! Now I'm a believer..... NOT!

The amazing part about his claim was the location in the Ukraine, out of all places. All of this came out in the beginning of August, which is more than 2 months before the situation that is currently unfolding.


Could it be a coincidence? How about very poor hygiene methods? I'm leaning towards poor hygiene. My wife is from Russia and during my first visit, I was appalled at the lack of hygiene! I would imagine Ukraine has even poorer hygiene methods. BTW, do you have a link to this Huffington Post story?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/14/man-suspected-of-making-t_n_259330.html

I'm sure you'll like that... BUT before tossing out the baby with the bath water please check out the information talked about in the comments section.
(You'll understand what I mean once you've seen the main article, and besides would I lead you down some obscure dark path for no reason?? <giggles>

fuzoid wrote:
ET wrote:Three spins thus far... One, it is another WHO lie and nothing is really happening in the Ukraine. Two, Baxter did it. Three, it is election related.


I'm leaning towards the WHO explanation. Because a conspiracy such as this would never be able to be covered up.

...but hey, nothing is going on here... these are not the drones you are looking for... keep moving along now...


My sentiments exactly! Especially considering in the USA alone, approximately 36,000 people die from flu viruses every year. So what makes H1N1 any more special? It makes for great news stories and there are very few vaccines to go around, that's what makes it more special!

fuzoid


I can only hope so... here is this persons take on it... http://www.ken-welch.com/Commentary/Pandemic1.html


Damn, I worked up a response but when I tried to post it, this site had already timed me out and I lost it. And I really don't want to do it over. Especially since I'm really not into conspiracy theories. But suffice to say that I'm still not convinced. And this Ken Welch character is a conspiracy theorist so I can't trust his site. As for the comments, I have no idea who these people are or where they get the info for their claims, so I can't trust them either.

One key thing you need to remember regarding conspiracy theories such as this, medical practioners and first responders are usually the first to be vaccinated. We can't have the medical profession getting sick while tending to the sick. And I have yet to hear about massive infections and/or deaths of individuals who do work in the medical profession. This alone tells me all I need to know... there is no conspiracy to infect individuals in some massive NWO plot.

Re: The Mexican Flu

Post by Fool » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:44 pm

I have 'some' time, but not an hour. Thanks anyway.

Re: The Mexican Flu

Post by ET » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:31 am

Here is an interesting talk show doing a rant on viruses. It is about an hour long and is an internet feed off this site. If you got time some have a listen.

http://askrsb.podbean.com/2009/10/26/medical-scam-alert-swine-flu-and-hiv-10252009-hour-1/

Re: The Mexican Flu

Post by ET » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:26 pm

Fool wrote:Four - coincidence?


Statistically... improbable... my dear Watson... :ugeek:

Re: The Mexican Flu

Post by ET » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:41 pm

fuzoid wrote:


Thanks for the the interesting site. I bookmarked it. Now where does it mention H1N1?


See menu top of the page from the linked site under the heading Situation Update. They are posting any information as such there.

fuzoid wrote:
ET wrote:]Not much to be found on the above at the Candy Nugget News site (CNN) aside --> The H1N1 virus has now become the dominant influenza virus around the globe, with high levels and an increase of activity in many regions, the World Health Organization said Thursday.


You do mean that the H1N1 virus is just getting more publication than other flu viruses, right? It's the way news organizations work, scare tactics. Bad news sells better than not as bad or good news.

Sad but true. I watch the BBC at this point. Also, check out other national newspapers globally. Most offer English. At least it makes it easier to get somewhat of a picture or diversified thoughts on a topic.

Funny (odd funny) since the WHO is in the Ukraine to investigate a new viral pneumonic plague which is mounting some very scary data (of which only a small amount is testing positive to the "H1N1" strain) that is being reported to the tune of 780,000 people infected. <<109 deaths of which only 23 H1N1>>


Yup, must be some kind of conspiracy to intentionally infect people.


LOL - you dragged the dragon out of the den on that one. My conspiracy thought was at least a few more lines down. :lol:

fuzoid wrote:
ET wrote:Even more odder when you consider the Huffington Post story containing the testimony of Joseph Moshe, would was reported as a Mossad Agent that specialized in biological warfare, who called into a radio show to warn people about a vaccine induced plague.


Ahh.... evidence for a conspiracy! Now I'm a believer..... NOT!

The amazing part about his claim was the location in the Ukraine, out of all places. All of this came out in the beginning of August, which is more than 2 months before the situation that is currently unfolding.


Could it be a coincidence? How about very poor hygiene methods? I'm leaning towards poor hygiene. My wife is from Russia and during my first visit, I was appalled at the lack of hygiene! I would imagine Ukraine has even poorer hygiene methods. BTW, do you have a link to this Huffington Post story?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/14/man-suspected-of-making-t_n_259330.html

I'm sure you'll like that... BUT before tossing out the baby with the bath water please check out the information talked about in the comments section.
(You'll understand what I mean once you've seen the main article, and besides would I lead you down some obscure dark path for no reason?? <giggles>

fuzoid wrote:
ET wrote:Three spins thus far... One, it is another WHO lie and nothing is really happening in the Ukraine. Two, Baxter did it. Three, it is election related.


I'm leaning towards the WHO explanation. Because a conspiracy such as this would never be able to be covered up.

...but hey, nothing is going on here... these are not the drones you are looking for... keep moving along now...


My sentiments exactly! Especially considering in the USA alone, approximately 36,000 people die from flu viruses every year. So what makes H1N1 any more special? It makes for great news stories and there are very few vaccines to go around, that's what makes it more special!

fuzoid


I can only hope so... here is this persons take on it... http://www.ken-welch.com/Commentary/Pandemic1.html

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