mohsen wrote:hi every body.we had norooz holidays so i could not come to net.sorry.
fuzoid,i think this forum become a chat room between me and u and all about religion.cause i dont have enough info to convince sb and its not my duty to do that,so i prefer to chat by yahoo for example.if u r agree with me,so plz comment me on my email:email@example.com but give me your email on this forum because i have about 5000 emails and i dont know where my new emails go!
While I truly mean no disrespect, I have no desire to debate God or Islam with you. As I've mentioned above, I've traveled a long religious road to get where I am today and there is nothing you could say that would convince me I am on the wrong path. And I stand by my statement that faith between ones self and God is personal and private and no one, NO ONE, has the right to force their religious beliefs on any other. This is everyone's universal and God given right, to be able to choose how we relate to our creator, or not at all. It is all about personal choice. Societies do not need the so-called guidance of religious leaders to exist peacefully and morally. If you choose to live in a theocratic society and accept the authority of your religious leaders to govern, then this is your business. But if your neighbor does not then morally, and legally, they should not be subject to Sharia law since Sharia is a matter of faith. And it is our universal and God given right to choose our own path of faith.
by the way,this forum is about 2012!so lets talk about that.
Actually this particular thread is about Israel and Iran! Unless you're implying that the possible scenario of Israel attacking Iran somehow plays into all this 2012 nonsense? Because that's all it is, nonsense.
see,remember the year 2000?they told us that we r gonna have nuclear war.lots of people believe that.christians were in the churches and prayed.other people in their ways.but really what happened?NOTHING.why?
I'm not sure where you got this from? While I'm sure there may have been small groups that believed 2000 was the end of days, they must have been in a very small minority. What people were concerned about was the y2k computer bug that they thought would wreak havoc with everyone's computers and everything that relied on computers.
because sth else one year later happened.i mean 11 september.to towers where destroyed.
Your logic is extremely flawed. Nothing happened because there was nothing to happen, not because there was an attack on 9/11. It wasn't an either or situation as a judgement from God.
by whom?alqaeda.it is what they say.but do you really believe that alqaeda did that?
Absolutely Al Qaeda was responsible! The collected evidence is overwhelming and Bin Laden eventually admitted it.
as a iranian i dont.why?
Why doesn't this surprise me?
let me explain the the accident for you.
With all due respect, I do not need you to explain it to me with conspiracy theories that have no basis in truth or reality.
first about the date:the date is 11/9/2001.why on this date?did you ever asked yourself?maybe or maybe not.i dont know how much you know about freemasonry,so i explain it completely.numbers have meaning in kabbalah.what is kabbalah?jewish magic.but it is completely from egypt.from the druids of time of mouses.the were exorcists.they used magic and jinnis to know about the future or to gain power.that knowledge make sth when merged with jewish.it is completely satanic and the followers are different from jewish people.they hide behind the religion.ok,i told u numbers have meanings.see they use 9 for month and 11 for days and 13 for collections.(for example 13 stars or 13 tables.)33 for showing power of of satan,69 for showing a kind of sex(in homosexuality)and 72 again for power.multiples of 11 are holy too.in the numerology 9 is the number of human,10 is number of god and 11 is number of satan.so 911 means human jump from god and goes to satan.11/9 is so.is a holy date.it is not a normal date like other days.(of course for them is holy although it has no difference for us between that day and others)in that special day they destroyed two towers in new york.so the date is holy,what they do on that day?why they destroy 2 big tower?easy!first,they together make the number 11.between is like a gate to other world.not hell or heaven no.to the world of jinnis.i mean when they destroy sth like that,the energy released and the gate open and they can come.i suggest u to search for this:arrivals,war on terror.(part number 17)
Here's the problem with your conspiracy, hard core evidence for the actual cause will trump pseudo-religious nonsense every time. As stated, the evidence that Al Qaeda planned, funded and carried out the terrorist attacks on 9/11 is overwhelming and no amount of pseudo-religious numerology will change this fact. Therefore your conspiracy is nothing more than faith that makes no sense. And the fact that you still hold to it in light of very real evidence tells me you are being fed nonsense by someone or your beliefs are conspiratorial and rely heavily on your religious faith. And if it's the latter, in light of the very real evidence for Al Qaeda's involvement, what does this have to say about your faith? Whoever connected the dots on this conspiratorial nonsense sure has a vivid imagination!
2.i talked about the date.i think it was enough.ok,what happened after that destruction?american governments attacked 2 muslim countries.i mean iraq and afghanistan.and till now about 1 million people have killed during the war.why?the towers were the excuses to attack those countries.
If you're implying the US government was behind 9/11 then you would be ignoring the evidence for Al Qaeda's involvement. While I detested Bush as my president and know he lied to justify invading Iraq, not even I believe he was capable of such a thing as 9/11. Again, the evidence for Al Qaeda's involvement is overwhelming and cannot be explained away.
do you ever heard of aleister crowlely?he has a book which is written in 1904 in egypt in one of the great pyramids by help of his wife.its name is the book of the law.in part 3 of that book,sentence 71 he said:Hail! ye twin warriors about the pillars of the world! for your time is nigh at hand.it is about those towers which destroyed in 2001!and in sentence 73 he said:Paste the sheets from right to left and from top to bottom: then behold! it is about dollar!do that to 5,10,20,50 and 100$.you will see the image of towers which in first one they are well.in the second it has attacked by sth and go on...in the last it is just the smoke of them.know i have a question:in which year the dollar was made?how many years these pics are on the dollar?so if u answer this question,u will know that from the first,this country was made by masons.so,from the first,this date is kind of holy,it was written in the book of aleister crowley,and because of that the attacked to 2 muslim countries.got that?it was the thing that they told us it is gonna happen on year 2000.
I thought you were Muslim? If you're Muslim what are you doing using Egyptian mythology to reinforce your conspiratorial beliefs? You do understand that Aleister Crowlely and his wife believed in and prayed to the Egyptian god's Thoth and Horus, right? And the Book of Law has the graven images of the god's Ra and Horus on it? Anyway, you're attempting to connect dots that don't exist and have actually resorted to Egyptian mythology to make sense of it all. With all due respect, this is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
3.other aspects of the destruction.about the towers:
1.as u know the towers destroyed vertical.i mean on their place.just few bomb scientists in the world can destroy a building with bomb that the building does not go to left or right side.so lots of researchers claims that there were no air plane!and the videos are made!why?because an air plane can not attack a building and make the destruction so pure that does not effect other buildings.so it was a bomb.
Well, all of the victims who died in the planes as they slammed into the towers would disagree with your assessment of the situation. Not only that but you're using conspiracy nonsense that has been dis-proven by very real engineering science. There were no bombs that brought down the towers, it was weakened support beams which caused the floors to collapse in a sandwiching fashion. Once the first floor collapsed on the one below it, the tower's fate was sealed.
2.from few days before that accident,most of the jews(better say:zionists)went off.i mean in the time of the accident they were not there.why jews?(why zionists?)if it is what alqaeda want to do it so how do they know?there are some possibilities:1.they made alqaeda and taliban(and their leader osama bin laden)2.alqaeda and taliban had no role and they(masons) did that in the name of alqaeda.
With all due respect your prejudice of the Jews is blinding you to the very real facts behind 9/11. Neither Jews or Masons had anything to do with 9/11. Again, research the evidence, REAL scientific evidence, and stop reading and disseminating prejudicial and conspiratorial nonsense. As I've stated previously, if you have unfettered access to the internet as you believe you do, you should be able to easily find legitimate sites with very real science that will explain how the towers collapsed, in detail. If you can't, then it means your government is blocking access to the truth.
first one is true.taliban was made to kill russians.they are from some afghan people.osama ben laden or better say:tim osman,is one of the agents of CIA that have worked for many years fro that agency.and the 2nd theory,when they ,make a group and they give orders to them,no matter which one do it!but in that situation they said it was alqaeda and others.to hide what they did behind those groups.
3.ropert murdoch,before the accident rent those towers and insured them.after that accident he received about 7.2 billion dollars!how did a zionist(the emperor of the media)knew that?
In all honesty I truly tire from all your anti-Semitic and conspiratorial nonsense. Again, the evidence exists for all to review that proves beyond doubt that Al Qaeda was behind the 9/11 attacks. Do you doubt Bin Laden's own admission?
4.george w bush in the time of accident was reading a book with children in a school.that book was some how...satanic!it was about the Pan.god of farm,i think.why on that moment that book was reading by him and why he held the book upside down?!!!!u can watch the arrivals series.it is a good series which is made by some muslims in america.of course it has problems but mostly it is true.
Coming from one who relies on ancient Egyptian mythology to support his conspiracies, I find your comment about a children's book being Satanic extremely ironic. You are looking for meaning and conspiracies where none exists. And since you brought it up, all one needs to do is look at his blank and stupid face when he was informed about the first tower. It's quite obvious he was just as surprised by the attack as everyone else.
5.from years before the 11/9/2001,in cartoons and movies they showed u sth is gonna happen on that time.for example in the simpsons cartoon(it is the most masonic cartoon!)
Oh please, now you're using cartoons to support your conspiracy beliefs? The Simpsons are Masonic? In case you haven't noticed, the Simpsons is a cartoon that spoofs (makes fun of) such beliefs, including religion, and is quite blasphemous. There is nothing Masonic about the Simpsons.
i think it is enough for this time.in the next comment,i will explain the 2007 war in lebonan and then ill gonna write about new order world(NOW)and the relation of that to year 2012.
With all due respect, I think that WAS enough! Besides, I have no desire to continue responding to religious and mythological conspiracy nonsense. If you plan on posting more, do not do it for my benefit because I'm done. Before closing I do need to ask one question, how do you reconcile your Muslim faith with Egyptian mythology? Or are you saying Thoth, Horus and Ra truly exist?